{"id":1698,"date":"2021-03-20T19:21:18","date_gmt":"2021-03-20T17:21:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/jeedom.sigalou-domotique.fr\/?p=1698"},"modified":"2025-08-16T17:21:04","modified_gmt":"2025-08-16T15:21:04","slug":"domotiser-un-va-et-vient-sans-neutre-dans-la-boite-de-derivation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/domotiser-un-va-et-vient-sans-neutre-dans-la-boite-de-derivation","title":{"rendered":"Domotise a come and go (not originally neutral) in the bypass box."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Warning: any intervention on electrical equipment must be carried out by an electricity professional, this can be dangerous.<\/em><\/p>\r\n<h1>Objective<\/h1>\r\n<p>I have classic back-and-forths in the rooms, there is no neutral to switches.<br \/>I want to add a Sonoff Zigbee to domotize this light (it works with SonofMini or other equivalents)<br \/><strong>Note:<\/strong> : You must have access to the bypass box to make this tutorial<\/p>\r\n<h3><em><strong>Production time 10 minutes<\/strong><\/em><\/h3>\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1703\" src=\"http:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_161142_resized.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"172\" height=\"229\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_161142_resized.jpg 756w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_161142_resized-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_161142_resized-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 172px) 100vw, 172px\" \/><!--more--><\/p>\r\n<h1>Existing<\/h1>\r\n<p>The room is equipped with two switches and a link to the lamp<\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>Switch 1: One red thread + two brown threads<\/li>\r\n<li>Switch 2: One gray thread + two brown threads<\/li>\r\n<li>Link to the lamp: A gray thread + a blue thread + a ground thread<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>My existing back and forth is a very standard cabling, I set the colour of the wires to reality:<\/p>\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1699\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/vaetvient.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"197\" height=\"119\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>The electrical plane of the chamber is as follows:<\/p>\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1701\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/planchambre.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"341\" height=\"355\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/planchambre.png 341w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/planchambre-288x300.png 288w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 341px) 100vw, 341px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<h1>Desire for realization<\/h1>\r\n<p>I use Sonoff\u2019s scheme for integrating a Sonoff into a back-and-forth by changing the colours.<\/p>\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1700\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/vaetvientsonoff.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"223\" height=\"153\" \/><\/p>\r\n<h1>Making the change<\/h1>\r\n<p>Open the bypass box and spot the grey wires, they are connected together, one goes to the lamp (B9) and the other goes to the switch (V9a), disconnecting them from each other (removing the Wago).<\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>Connect the grey wire that goes on the lamp to the Lout terminal of the Sonoff<\/li>\r\n<li>Connect the grey wire on the switch to one of the Sonoff\u2019s S1 terminals<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1704\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_161738_resized-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"623\" height=\"777\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>Locate the red wire that goes to the second switch, disconnect it from the Wago \"phase\" and connect it to the Sonoff's S2<\/p>\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1705\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_162013_resized.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"465\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_162013_resized.jpg 1008w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_162013_resized-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_162013_resized-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_162013_resized-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>Add a small red rigid cable and take the place of the red cable that has just been disconnected in the Wago \u2018phase\u2019 and then connect this red cable to the Lin terminal block of the Sonoff<\/p>\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1706\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_162519_resized.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"621\" height=\"828\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_162519_resized.jpg 756w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_162519_resized-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_162519_resized-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 621px) 100vw, 621px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>All that is missing is the Neutral to connect, to get the neutral of the lamp, here I replaced a 3-wire connector with a 4-wire Wago and added a blue cable to the Sonoff\u2019s Nin terminal block.<\/p>\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1707\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_163141_resized.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"635\" height=\"476\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_163141_resized.jpg 1008w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_163141_resized-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_163141_resized-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_163141_resized-768x576.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 635px) 100vw, 635px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>It\u2019s over!!! It is really simple to do.<\/p>\r\n<h1>Result<\/h1>\r\n<p>I took the opportunity to wire two rooms in a few minutes on the same principle, here is the result<\/p>\r\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1708\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_170530_resized.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"637\" height=\"849\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_170530_resized.jpg 756w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_170530_resized-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_170530_resized-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 637px) 100vw, 637px\" \/> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone  wp-image-1709\" src=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_170702_resized.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"638\" height=\"850\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_170702_resized.jpg 756w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_170702_resized-600x800.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/03\/20210320_170702_resized-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 638px) 100vw, 638px\" \/><\/p>\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Warning: any intervention on electrical equipment must be carried out by an electrical professional, this can be dangerous. Objective I have in the classic back-and-forth rooms, there is no neutral to the switches. I would like to add a Sonoff Zigbee to domotize this light (this works with SonofMini or other equivalents) Note: It is necessary [...]<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1698","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-domotique"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1698","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1698"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1698\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1698"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1698"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.sigalou-domotique.fr\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1698"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}